1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,920 are there men in black, very provocative subjects, a lot of opinions, born against 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:19,280 impulsive subject. And some people have had some very nasty experiences with the 3 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:28,280 gentleman in black. And we look forward very much to hearing what our speakers 4 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:35,360 tonight have to say about them. Ladies and gentlemen, may I present to Norman 5 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:44,360 Oliver. Thank you very much, Norman. 6 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:53,360 Now, you know, I seem to be up here so often these days in one capacity or another that 7 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,360 I really couldn't blame anyone for thinking I was doing rather too much of a talking, 8 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:03,360 especially since as you'll see from your cards, you'll appear to be hogging too many things 9 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:10,360 completely. So firstly, I'd like to explain how this came about. Now, I put myself down to speak 10 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:16,360 for CODMOS on March the 21st, having just completed the CODMOS program, when it was 11 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:22,360 already made to be the before the program through TUMIC, I was left with February date open for 12 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:29,360 talks by me. Now that I have to get the detailed off to the printer straight away, I have the 13 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:34,360 alternative either of leaving tonight's state blank or giving two talks, one to CODMOS and 14 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:40,360 one to DUTHURUS. Well, I chose the latter course, which explains why you have to sit and 15 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:47,360 suffer both in February and in March. You know, I've given a variety of talks on UFOs to a 16 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:53,360 variety of associations and societies. From church, from youth clubs and young 17 00:01:53,360 --> 00:02:00,360 conservative associations to astronomical associations, via such noble institutions as the 18 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:06,360 Tothridge Women's Institute, where being the only male present of some of my nerves and 19 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:13,360 certainly unholy, I've been being expected to sing Jerusalem before I began. Through then to the 20 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:20,360 South of the Tainz Jewish Society, where before the light's gone, I was somewhat be used at first 21 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:27,360 by everyone, everybody wishing each other a happy new year when it was only just October. However, 22 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,360 it's one thing to give a talk to people, most of whom haven't the slightest knowledge of the 23 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:39,360 subject, and quite another to speak to those who are already well-versed in source and more. 24 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,360 And even if they don't know all the answers, at least they know all your good questions. First of all, 25 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:50,360 let me make it quite clear that whilst I pose to the title of my talk the question of whether 26 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:57,360 there are many Blacks, I do not, to my knowledge, number any of these attention amongst my 27 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,360 acquaintances. Neither have I won myself, and I sincerely hope that none have managed to creep in 28 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:09,360 out of life. In fact, quite frankly, I do not know the answer to my own question. So before 29 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:16,360 someone asks me then why the devil I'm speaking about them, I'll tell you what I propose to do. This is to give 30 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:23,360 you quite a few facts on various alleged many Black faces from different parts of the world, to discuss 31 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:32,360 various lines of thought on the subject, and then lead you to accept or reject any of these as you see fit. 32 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Now, at this stage, it's a presuming that whilst most of you here know something about many Black 33 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:44,360 activities, there may well be others who are comparatively new to the subject and are wondering 34 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:51,360 what the heck that bloke up there is nothing about. We can here, over here, something about flying saucers. 35 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:59,360 Well, very briefly, many Blacks came into prominence quite a few years ago now, when a chap named Al Bender 36 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:05,360 was persuaded to give up his UFO-researching activities following visit by three of these 37 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:12,360 Gentries. Since then, quite a few UFO researchers, people who've had UFO sightings and contact 38 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:18,360 these are alleged to have been so approached in one way or another and subsequently filed by 39 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,360 intimidation of some description. I believe in some cases this may well have occurred, I'm certainly not 40 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:30,360 saying it happened. But one thing I would ask you to bear in mind, and that is that most people love a mystery. 41 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:39,360 I do myself. And if I may be forgiven, the paraphrase may have made a mystery out of a molehill, I said in some case. 42 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:47,360 However, to come to example, there is really so much material that it's a hard job to know where to begin. 43 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:54,360 But I think that some of the reports and articles and source of news from the state articles by John Heale, 44 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,360 and by the State of America and James Mowley are as good a place as any. 45 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:07,360 Now, in the editorial of Soughton News of autumn 1967, James Mowley wrote, 46 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:14,360 information reaching us during the past few months from several reliable sources indicates that leading researchers, 47 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:20,360 as well as ordinary sources cited throughout the country, the country of course being the USA, 48 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:26,360 are being subjected to an unbelievably complex and extensive theory of frightening events. 49 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:34,360 Amongst them, attempted as well as successful such-ups by mysterious strangers usually dressed in dark clothing, 50 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,360 weird or threatening phone calls and letters, and so on. 51 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:46,360 They appear as a card with meaningless license plates or no plates at all, which are followed certain new power investigators 52 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:53,360 and the sources they're worth, and other events which are so utterly fantastic that we hesitate to put them into print. 53 00:05:53,360 --> 00:06:00,360 Please don't think that we've lost our equilibrium or are merely trying to jazz up the UFO investigation. 54 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,360 We are merely reporting the evidence which we've uncovered. 55 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:10,360 It is difficult to pinpoint just where and where these events begin. 56 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:15,360 Our first attempt to bring the truth to our readers regarding this new phase in the mystery 57 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:22,360 was on a summer issue where we reported that the US Air Force admits still having checked out a number of cases 58 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:28,360 in which mysterious imposters bearing impressive but completely phoning official credentials 59 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:34,360 have visited and frightened sources cited in various parts of the United States. 60 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:43,360 This following report which was from John Keogh was later substantiated by an official Air Force letter dated March 1st, 1967. 61 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:52,360 Anti-Meditorial says that this letter intended for distribution to all commands is signed by an assistant deputy chief of staff at the airport. 62 00:06:52,360 --> 00:07:01,360 I can't help feeling that an assistant deputy chief of staff is some one rather low-down and not high-ups of stuff. 63 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:09,360 As the editorial continues, at a recent UFO convention in New York, several delegates claimed to have been watched and followed 64 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:18,360 while walking on the narrow level to the hotel Commodore by individuals who looked and acted like official military officers in their investigations. 65 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:24,360 But who, as we later learned by checking with the manager, had no connection with the hotel. 66 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:31,360 These men were apparently working out at a room near the hotel's coffee shop to which they'd accessed from a low-level hall 67 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,360 and from the nearby Grand Central Station. 68 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:40,360 The demons resorted to those that they had wire-tapping equipment set up temporarily in the room, 69 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,360 though by the time anyone thought to check this out it was too late. 70 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:49,360 The convention was over and the men, whoever they were, had to party. 71 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,360 Well, so much for the excerpt from James Moses' editorial. 72 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,360 In the same issue of thought and news, there are a variety of many black reports quoted, 73 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,360 and again, I'm not saying I believe or I just believe any particular one. 74 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:10,360 Now, I will say that I don't think it is by any means inconceivable that one or two of them have seen chairs up a bed. 75 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:15,360 Anyway, here are some of them of the year still being 1967. 76 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:24,360 On August 4th, a black Cadillac made a deliberate attempt to run over a UFO witness on the main street of a Long Island town. 77 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:29,360 Again on Long Island, too many Air Force uniforms harassed UFO witnesses. 78 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,360 One of these men identified himself as a Lieutenant-Friend Clavis 79 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:40,360 and threatened two different people with a revolver warning them to watch out. 80 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:46,360 Colonel John Dorton interviewed at least three Long Island residents 81 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:53,360 and asked them to fill out conjugated phones which contained involved questions about the witness's personal history. 82 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:58,360 Through a picture of one Long Island, John Clavis had a check run on both these men. 83 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:05,360 The Air Force denied that it knew anything about either one or the domain with those names were assigned anywhere on the island. 84 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:11,360 Lieutenant-Friend Clavis made a turn up in a postman's uniform and was followed by Keele. 85 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:17,360 Clavis and another man were engaged in taking photographs of the homes of UFOs sighted. 86 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:27,360 While involved in this investigation, Keele had two encounters with a large black Cadillac in an isolated section of Long Island. 87 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,360 In one of these encounters, the Cadillac which contained two dark-skinned men 88 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,360 was parked and laying in wait on a deserted road. 89 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,360 In the other incident, Keele did a turnabout and followed the Cadillac for several months. 90 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:48,360 Also reported the following incident alleged to have happened through a Mr. Robert Easley of Define, Sofya. 91 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:58,360 Now Mr. Easley would seem to be a false researcher of some recute, holding positions of importance in several UFO investigations, 92 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:03,360 including that of Ohio Director of the Interplanetary New Service, 93 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:08,360 and he was apparently an assistant investigator to the late Professor Nainik. 94 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:13,360 In the small hours of July 11th, Mr. Easley was awakened by a phone call from a lady 95 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,360 who told him that she and seven others were observing two bright, fast-moving UFOs. 96 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,360 After she hung up, he immediately got dressed and went to the scene. 97 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:30,360 While checking out this report, he noticed that he was being followed by a man in a black sedan with no license plate. 98 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:36,360 The driver, who was a complete stranger to Easley, was dressed in black shoes, black dress trousers, 99 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,360 and a dark blue fur over shirt, he missed out on that one. 100 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:48,360 On July 15th, he became followed home by the same man in the same car that he was driving his girlfriend home. 101 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,360 When he pulled into her driveway, the unknown car sped off. 102 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:58,360 Late at that evening, as the two sat talking on the front porch, the car came down the road 103 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:03,360 and stopped right in front of the house as soon as the topic of UFOs entered the conversation. 104 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,360 Easley could feel the man staring at them. 105 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:14,360 When they got off the subject, the car left, but when they returned to it an hour later, the same car came back again. 106 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:21,360 It was an extreme, serious driver who knew what they were saying or could read their minds. 107 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:27,360 On July 17th, Easley was checking out another rather routine report, and the man reappeared 108 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:34,360 and followed him to and from the scene of the sighting, dressed in a parallel of the same clothes as we saw. 109 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:40,360 Between the 11th and the 17th of July, Easley received a total of 12 strange phone calls. 110 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:46,360 In each case, the only sound on the other end of the line was a strange beeping noise. 111 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:51,360 Each call lasted for about 15 seconds, followed by a complete silence. 112 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:57,360 The beep sounded far away, and as if coming from a machine, possibly a tape record. 113 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:02,360 No explanation could be offered by the telephone operator. 114 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:08,360 Easley tends to connect to these unusual events with plans that he had during that period 115 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:13,360 to check out a possible flying saucer landing sighting southern Ohio. 116 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:18,360 After the area was finally checked and heard lawless and found to have no importance after all, 117 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,360 the succession of persecutions ceased. 118 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,360 Even though it sounds something like a plot from the TV series The Invaders, 119 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:32,360 Easley believes that the aliens, whoever they are, apparently knew about his plans to explore the site 120 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,360 and rested easy after nothing was found there. 121 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,360 Mr. Easley now echoes the warnings given out many years ago by Albert K. Bender, 122 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:45,360 one of the first alleged to be silent by the notorious three men in black. 123 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:53,360 Bender said that many will remember that extreme caution should be exercised by all UFO investigators. 124 00:12:53,360 --> 00:13:01,360 Now, there are many more examples, I should say alleged examples, of many black activity 125 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:08,360 in this and in other editions of Salsa News, and I'm stressed that all I am doing is presenting them to you, 126 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,360 not vouching for their truth. 127 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:19,360 However, before I turn from the American scene, an article written by John Keel again in 1967, 128 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:24,360 the North quoting form is written from the silencing viewpoint if I may call it that. 129 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:31,360 Personally, I do not entirely agree with him, particularly so far as my own experience in this country goes, 130 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,360 but more of that later. 131 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,360 This is what Keel had to say and I'll quote it. 132 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:43,360 This has, I know, already been printed in one of the issues of the before journal elsewhere, 133 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,360 but I think it's quite worthwhile to read carefully. 134 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:53,360 Already thousands of people in the United States know the full secret, believe it or not, 135 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,360 and thousands more will have the answer before this year ends. 136 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:01,360 I believe the year was 19, a couple of years ago, 1967. 137 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:06,360 These people confide the select group which we now call silent contact teams, 138 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:13,360 and have been playing a small but important role in the numerous flecks of the past three years. 139 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:21,360 In my struggle throughout the country in the last year, I've uncovered and interviewed dozens of these silent contact teams. 140 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:29,360 They all have the same story to tell, and more important, most of them have been given identical artifacts with truth of their experience. 141 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:37,360 The silent contact teams differ from the over-publicized contact teams of the past in several important ways. 142 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,360 First of all, they are afraid to speak up into the ill-willed, they know. 143 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:48,360 They find themselves in the midst of a complex conspiracy which poses personal threats to them, 144 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:54,360 and they are involuntarily enlisted to participate in a series of experiments and adventures 145 00:14:54,360 --> 00:15:00,360 which go far beyond anything ever dreamed up by science fiction writers. 146 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:05,360 Expensive contacts have actually been going on since 1939, 147 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:12,360 but many have been handled in such a manner that the contact team did not actually realize what was happening to him, 148 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,360 and frequently rejected the whole situation as some kind of host, 149 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:22,360 or in some cases as an hallucination or a ghost experience. 150 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,360 In many cases, once a contact team's role in the phenomenon was finished, 151 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:32,360 they were somehow brainwashed and conscious memory of their experiences was wiped away. 152 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:40,360 I've learned other cases in which the silent contact teams either went insane or committed suicide. 153 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:45,360 A number of very well-known UFO researchers have been silent contact teams for years, 154 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:52,360 but of course they sprinkled genuine clues in their books and articles that have never dared to reveal the whole story. 155 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:58,360 Other prominent info-logists have been contacted briefly and given specific information 156 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,360 to be deliberately passed on to their readers. 157 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,360 Ironically, real truth is so bizarre, 158 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:11,360 since for researchers usually rejected outright until they were installed as post-hand experience. 159 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,360 Many of them find it impossible to cope with emotionally 160 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:20,360 until they quietly abandon UFO research in the interest of self-preparation. 161 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:25,360 Nearly all the speculations and conclusions of the last two decades are totally false. 162 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:32,360 The celebrated scientific method cannot, in fact, be successfully applied to this situation. 163 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:37,360 Astronomers and scientists are the people least equipped to understand the phenomenon 164 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,360 thanks to their rigid disciplines and preconceived notions of the universe. 165 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:48,360 Metaphysicians, on the other hand, are too gullible and too quick to apply in a pseudo-scientific explanation. 166 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,360 There is no simple answer for the mystery. 167 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:58,360 All of the current theories ranging from extraterrestrial to fourth-dimensional cannot actually be applied. 168 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,360 Once a researcher has learned to revise his approach to the subject 169 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:07,360 and discovered the keys to look for in the new cases, he can uncover the secrets in a matter of weeks. 170 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:12,360 Many have already done so, and they are keeping their mouth shut. 171 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:15,360 The secret has been, under our nose, it all along. 172 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:22,360 Even before this after its brink of thousands more will learn the real truth behind the flying saucer. 173 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:27,360 Like the others, they will all keep quiet, not even their neighbors will know. 174 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:30,360 The UFO truth is something like psychiatry. 175 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:32,360 The psychiatrist cannot tell you what is wrong, 176 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:36,360 he can only guide you to learning the truth about yourself. 177 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:38,360 So it is the UFO. 178 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:41,360 It takes personal experience to convince you of the truth. 179 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:47,360 You have been told the truth many times in books and publications that you have rejected it. 180 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:54,360 This illusion truth cannot be found up in a few words or a few pages so that it will seem more credible. 181 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:56,360 Some context you have tried. 182 00:17:56,360 --> 00:18:03,360 Unfortunately, very few people are strong enough or emotionally stable enough to cope with the whole secret. 183 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:09,360 And the average UFO researcher does not fully realize the great personal risks involved 184 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:14,360 until they have enmeshed themselves in the situation and then it is too late. 185 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:17,360 That's the end of the quote from John Keel. 186 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:24,360 Well now, I think from the fact that I found Cosmos in order to uncover contact cases 187 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:32,360 and to investigate and put into practice all possible methods of possible communication with spacemen or space entities, 188 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:36,360 says for itself that I don't entirely go along with it. 189 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:41,360 You see, from what John Keel writes, it follows to me that, 190 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:48,360 near their heart, no whole secret himself and therefore the one of these presumed increasing truth. 191 00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:52,360 But surely, as he said, we have been told the truth many times, 192 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:55,360 our minds, or most of our minds at any rate, 193 00:18:55,360 --> 00:19:00,360 ought by now to be capable of upsetting it without going round the bend. 194 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:04,360 Because according to Mr Keel, we must have frequently read it. 195 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:09,360 Now, I don't pretend to know all the answers or answers myself. 196 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:11,360 That's what I want to find out. 197 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:18,360 But surely the answers must be along some or some combination of these possibilities. 198 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:24,360 Sources could be significant from interplanetary, interstellar or intergalactic space 199 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:31,360 where the occupants may be either family, hostile, or intent on exploitation or colonization. 200 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:38,360 They may or may not have connections with the spiritualistic, occult, or religious field also. 201 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:42,360 Clubs may be inter-dimensional, with beings from other planes of existence, 202 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:45,360 possibly even coexistence with ourselves. 203 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:47,360 They could come from bases under the Earth, 204 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:52,360 although that matter bases on the Earth, the occupants being Earth-spaces we're unaware of, 205 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:55,360 or from other planet-source systems with bases here. 206 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:59,360 They could be time-traveling from Earth or elsewhere. 207 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:01,360 They might own us, own this planet, 208 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:06,360 and all we know of, like any ownership, could be taken in hand at this moment. 209 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:13,360 It is possible we may be being invaded by some type or type of entity that can change the reforms as well, 210 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:16,360 to use whatever occasion it might be that requires suitability. 211 00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:22,360 Or again, Earth may be about to explode, or be engulfed in the sun turning over, 212 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:24,360 and they're here to take off. 213 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:31,360 Some of the population now be chosen, or are suddenly to hold the door of a new age on Earth. 214 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:36,360 They may be partly or entirely connected with what we might loosely term the occult 215 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:38,360 and not physically inter-determined. 216 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:41,360 You know, there are many more possibilities, I could quote. 217 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:47,360 I'll finish the list with one that some people have come up with, and that is that they come from the Devil. 218 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:52,360 Now, I'm perfectly capable of, I'm sure, many others, 219 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:57,360 of accessing any of the peregrine possibilities and plenty more without going round the bed. 220 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:03,360 Particularly since, according to John Keel, he's already repeatedly been told the answer, 221 00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:07,360 therefore it should lie somewhere amongst those I've already made. 222 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:10,360 Now, they come from the Devil. 223 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:16,360 These words, you know, remind me of the complete pharmacy in our bender's book about the free men. 224 00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:21,360 One of them told him quite categorically, there is no life after death. 225 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:24,360 Well, I relish to have told him that. 226 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:26,360 Now, I'll just think about that for a moment. 227 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:32,360 Because if you live a life after death, there must always be a possibility that indeed many people believe 228 00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:36,360 that those who have died will find a means to tell us that. 229 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:41,360 Now, the only way you could possibly know that there was no life after death 230 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:44,360 would be for someone who had died to tell us. 231 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:46,360 Should there be... 232 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:52,360 Should there be no life after life, if I obviously couldn't do, it's a paradox. 233 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:57,360 Certainly one may choose to believe or laugh in an afterlife as one pleases, 234 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:03,360 but the categorical statement that there is no afterlife is impossible to substantiate, 235 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:07,360 and so whatever one believes, then always remain the possibility. 236 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:11,360 Well, having got slightly adrift from meaning black, 237 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:15,360 that means pause here and turn to cases in great brightness. 238 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:20,360 Now, on December 5th of last year, last year, sorry, the year before last, 239 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:27,360 now, the BBC programme today included a three-minute interview with a Mr. Brian Leesley Andrew 240 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:30,360 who'd opened a UFO information centre in Coventry, 241 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:35,360 and he decided to close it down following some rather unusual happening, 242 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:40,360 and Rula immediately had it that this was a man in black case, 243 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:45,360 which was in fact referred to in an earlier edition of The Cognos Journal. 244 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:50,360 However, I wrote to Mr. Andrew and asked him if this was actually so. 245 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:53,360 This was his reply and I quote, 246 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:54,360 he said, 247 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:28,360 It was a man who burned, and he spoke in perfect English, then in fact too perfect. 248 00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:31,360 He was not slang or everyday expression. 249 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:36,360 He asked, almost insisted that I told him all the information collected by me 250 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:39,360 during the time the centre had been opened. 251 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:43,360 He also asked if a woman had been in touch with me to tell of aliens. 252 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:49,360 She had seen working on a UFO or spacecraft in Coventry. 253 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:53,360 He would not let me question him unless that I could only presume he meant a craft 254 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,360 which had landed and was being repaired. 255 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:57,360 He goes on, 256 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:01,360 Another impression I found whilst talking to this man was that he had seen this woman 257 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:06,360 watching him working on the craft and wanted to know if the fact had come to the attention of myself 258 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,360 or any other authority. 259 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:10,360 Coal's last words were, 260 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:12,360 I will contact you in two days. 261 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:15,360 Please don't publish anything I have told you. 262 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:17,360 If you didn't contact, fair death. 263 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:19,360 And if an answer goes on, 264 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:22,360 an incident occurred with much of varying intensity 265 00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:25,360 on about the third or fourth week of the centre being opened. 266 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:29,360 I was in the house of someone who had seen UFOs on at least three occasions. 267 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:34,360 We had press cuttings out and were discussing scout craft and motherships, 268 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:37,360 and the possibility of the latest object to be seen 269 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:41,360 being part of what someone else had seen in photographs. 270 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:45,360 The main source of electricity is 240 volts, 271 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:49,360 and is very constant to about 5 and no more than 10 volts up or down. 272 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:53,360 The dimming that occurred was in the world of 40 volts up or down. 273 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:57,360 This occurred for the second half of the one and a half hours I was in the house. 274 00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:03,360 The third incident occurred when I was repairing my car at the rear of my mother's home. 275 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:07,360 I was in fact underneath the car which was raised off the ground by two reds. 276 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:12,360 I was in the open and able to see the garage next to that of my father. 277 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:16,360 And as I was getting out I saw a man with an orange face. 278 00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:20,360 The face was glowing and perhaps more red than orange, 279 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:24,360 and at the head of the belt one third larger than normal. 280 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:29,360 The eyes, nose and mouth, I cannot tell whether any ear is going to touch me. 281 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:32,360 Nothing was said to me, neither do I say anything to the face, 282 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:35,360 which as I watched it began to lose the milk. 283 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:41,360 The orange red appearance left it and it became smaller and changed to that one old man. 284 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:47,360 The conversion from the red things to normal took about half a minute. 285 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:54,360 When in answer to various questions I put to him it was established that only the one phone call lasting three to five minutes 286 00:25:54,360 --> 00:26:02,360 was received by Mr Andrew who stated at the call I asked him if anyone from Cosmos, Contact UK, 287 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:05,360 or before I had been in touch with him. 288 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:09,360 Now as far as I suspect here, if he'd been likely to be before or Contact UK, 289 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:13,360 the order of those three would be reversed, which is never my case. 290 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:18,360 The call was made to his home and the caller did not, had I at first thought, 291 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:23,360 request Mr Andrew to abandon his usual activity. 292 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:28,360 The answer to a question about possible electrical force when the dimming incident occurred 293 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:33,360 is a reply was this is possible that for lights on a normally fabled circuit 294 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:38,360 to vary about 40 volts up and down, 5 or 6 times is a bit much. 295 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:43,360 So nothing there that one could really call pressure in many blasts, 296 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:47,360 despite the fact that it was alleged to be so in the first instance. 297 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:53,360 Now we now come to another rumored MIB case in another part of England, 298 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:59,360 which was referred to not all that while back in a British, in a British usual journal. 299 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:04,360 Now I haven't obtained the permission of a person concerned to talk about this case, 300 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:07,360 but I think you'll agree it really is worth mentioning, 301 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:11,360 so I've been very highly original in calling this threat. 302 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:17,360 It was alleged that this threat would abandon his source of activity after many black activities, 303 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:23,360 and rumour also had it that he'd been scared into doing so by a man who'd transfigured himself 304 00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:26,360 in the presence of Mr. Egg and his wife. 305 00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:31,360 Some sources suggesting that the man himself was an alien. 306 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:38,360 However, I went to see Mr. Egg myself and found that he had not abandoned his UFO activity at all. 307 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:45,360 Although in a twisted sort of way, there was a basis of truth in the MIB suggestion. 308 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:52,360 Well those actual experience would appear on the surface to bear very little relation to UFOs. 309 00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:55,360 I think you'll find it well worth considering. 310 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:57,360 Now here it is. 311 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:03,360 Now the man who apparently was capable of transfiguring himself, I shall call Bill. 312 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,360 He does happen to be his name actually. 313 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:14,360 He's in his services in the regular church goer, and was actively interested in UFOs as well as psychic matters. 314 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:20,360 Now this man had formed a local UFO group, and here's the MIB connection. 315 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:28,360 He had to disband this after one, two or three I think it was, from many black types who had threatened him, 316 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:30,360 once when he was actually in church. 317 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:35,360 Although it's not exactly clear what he was in fact threatened with. 318 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:40,360 However, Al-Mastrakh had painted the anniversary of Bill through prayer, 319 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,360 and here's his wife, called on him several times. 320 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,360 On the last occasion, which was in September 1968, 321 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,360 Mr. Al-Mastrakh felt that his reputed ability to transfigure himself, 322 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,360 and built only yes, it did happen, but he couldn't control it. 323 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,360 It sometimes happened when his mind was tired, 324 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,360 and suddenly he appeared to people of a different person, 325 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,360 himself being very short and thin. 326 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:13,360 Well on this last occasion, Mr. Al-Mastrakh and his wife had stayed until about one or two in the morning before they departed. 327 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,360 And after they were going down the path, 328 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,360 Mr. Al-Mastrakh found that all his movements were slowing up, 329 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,360 and it was as much as he could do to move. 330 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:29,360 He looked back, and the figure of the door was of a man who looked completely different, 331 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,360 and had an utterly different feel, very portrait, nothing at all. 332 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,360 This is extrapain very frightening, and told her husband to hurry to the car, 333 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,360 which was parked a few doors up from the house. 334 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:47,360 It was in such a position that they would have to drive past the house again before they reached the main road. 335 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,360 Well Mr. Al-Mastrakh just about made it to the car, 336 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,360 all his movements were getting slower and slower on the front, 337 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,360 he just couldn't do anything about it. 338 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,360 And inside the car, it was icy cold, although it was a pretty warm night from the time of year. 339 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,360 He got the car going, still in slow motion, 340 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:12,360 and as they gradually passed the gate, he saw the figure walking down the path through the gate. 341 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:18,360 And as he or it walked, they could see it was surrounded by a blue aura. 342 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,360 Anyway, as the car gradually moved out of the area, 343 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:28,360 normal movements came back to Mr. Al-Mastrakh, so he still felt cold and mentally and physically unwell. 344 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,360 This feeling suddenly left us about an hour. 345 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,360 The following day they told friends about the occurrence, 346 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,360 and a few days later they had a phone call from Bill, 347 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,360 who said he'd been told he'd had a transformation when they left, 348 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,360 that he'd been unaware of it at the time. 349 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,360 And he said he'd like to come over and see them, 350 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,360 which after some didn't know, they finally agreed to his doing. 351 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:57,360 When he came, he told them all he remembered was walking down the path to wave them goodbye. 352 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,360 He was absolutely, literally himself unaware of any transformation. 353 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,360 The only tentative explanation of his transfiguration he could give 354 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,360 was that he believed that in a former existence he'd been a monk, 355 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,360 and that when his mind reached a certain degree of emptiness or tiredness, 356 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,360 his form of personality took him over. 357 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:24,360 He added too that at times he visited a certain spot in the ground of Yorkshire Abbey, 358 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,360 I'd been there myself actually, 359 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,360 where he felt a very special sense of relief and elation, 360 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:35,360 although it's another spot about a quarter of a mile away he felt exactly the opposite. 361 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,360 But altogether quite an unusual story, I'm sure you'll agree, 362 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,360 and I think one will be a success. 363 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,360 Well now, some of you will know, I'm sure, 364 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,360 that I had a great deal to do with the investigations into the Foscoresian mystery, 365 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:55,360 in which the late Ernest Arthur Bryant was the central figure at the alleged contactee. 366 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:01,360 Well I'm not going into the pros and cons of that case now, except on two points. 367 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,360 Firstly, some months ago to my establishment, 368 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:11,360 I found a reference in one of the American magazines to Bryant having been visited by men in black. 369 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,360 Well, I'm not saying he wasn't, but I will say, and without any contradiction, 370 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,360 that I've spent more time on Bryant's claims than anyone else. 371 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,360 I visited him on numerous occasions, by dozens of letters from him, 372 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,360 and all together about ten or twelve hours in faith recording. 373 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:35,360 And absolutely nowhere is there any indication whatsoever that he's suffered any form of attention from men in black. 374 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,360 I would very much like to know where that magazine would place his information. 375 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,360 Trouble is, I read it in passing, didn't mark it at the time, 376 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,360 that he had something like thirty different American exchange magazines, 377 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,360 I mean able to locate it again. 378 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,360 Second point I would like to make about Coruscant's death. 379 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:58,360 I regard it as an inherently possible story, it could happen. 380 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,360 Unfortunately, I now regard it as extremely unlikely to have actually done so. 381 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:10,360 The reason I refer to it again now is that while I don't regard them as classical men in black size, 382 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:16,360 I now believe there were in fact three involved in cutting up the story that Bryant executed. 383 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,360 I shouldn't say more on this here now, since this is for men in black talk, 384 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,360 not the hope that on last the twenty-first, when the other cases, amongst other cases, 385 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:31,360 I shall be expelling more on the development of ones in the Coruscant affair. 386 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:38,360 Now, to make a personal point, I can only speak here for two youth organizations, 387 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:43,360 but to my knowledge, no one in any executive position in these organizations, 388 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:49,360 so they've been threatened in any way because they've been delving too deeply into the UFO enigma. 389 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,360 On the other hand, I often wonder, you know, should I at any time decide that 390 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,360 UFOs were taking up too much of my time and I dropped that to interest in the subject, 391 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,360 that a whole crop of rumors would start up about my having been silenced? 392 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,360 I've always think they would, you know. 393 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,360 How is actually being approached as concerned? 394 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:14,360 I can only repeat what I wrote in Cosmos Journal number two, which was, 395 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,360 should communications in type be received from men in black, 396 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:24,360 Cosmos guarantees that such communications will be publicized in future revisions of the journal, 397 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,360 whether or not they are of a certain nature and no matter what form they take, 398 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,360 they'll be going to the law of infinity. 399 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:38,360 I should just add to that, though, that as I also wrote, would be hoped as need not bother, 400 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,360 should they do so, they will be exposed to the pages of this journal when found out, 401 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,360 but please note the word is when and not if. 402 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,360 In other words, what I'm saying is that as far as this country is concerned, 403 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:56,360 and I suspect this country, that I've come across very little basis or evidence of men in black activity, 404 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,360 certainly not at both of the executive level. 405 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,360 I'm not saying there is none, I only just in the one case I referred to earlier, 406 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,360 have I found any indication that there might be. 407 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,360 Now, before I switch back to a final look at the major theme, 408 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:18,360 I'm sure you'll forgive me for referring once again, as I did last week, 409 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,360 to the most unfortunate recent death of Dr. Linklack, 410 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:28,360 the well-known Australian ufologist who at the time of his death was on a world tour on behalf of his employer. 411 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,360 And while at the same time grafting the opportunity to visit various UFOs, 412 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,360 personalities and societies in the various countries he passed through. 413 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:45,360 Lionel was very inviting me to meet him when he visited London for a couple of days last summer, 414 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,360 and I was therefore extremely upset because only about 10 days later, 415 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,360 he'd been killed at a truck by a train that's banked for its station in Germany, 416 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,360 the day following going to St. Carl's beat of these barbedons, 417 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:01,360 he publishes the Joan UFO, the Joan paper, using a frisked one. 418 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,360 Now, this is going to lead off to his death. 419 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:11,360 I heard it implies from several different people that this was a men in black coat seeking to push himself. 420 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,360 Well, what in fact actually happened, as you can read in space, Link, 421 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,360 is that as he was getting his last pieces of luggage on the train, 422 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,360 it was flagged away and he fell under the train as it started to move. 423 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,360 It was being dragged along by it but it left the station. 424 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,360 It was a very sad and unfortunate accident, but it had nothing to do with men in black, 425 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:38,360 and it's worthwhile bearing in mind how quickly in some people's minds it became so connected. 426 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,360 To return again from the moment of source and news, 427 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:47,360 the idea was put forward in a recent interview that the UFO personalities were being duplicated 428 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,360 while at least impersonated by men in black tights on a number of occasions. 429 00:36:52,360 --> 00:37:00,360 Various noted researchers have apparently been seen and spoken to in different places of the same time. 430 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,360 This line of thought, you know, is an intriguing one, whether or not one believes the report. 431 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:11,360 As one of the things John Keyleth made, is that some contactee, the witness of the source and landings, 432 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,360 have been pressing for substitution should they not remain so. 433 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,360 Mind if we take this line of thought too seriously, it does become paradoxically 434 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,360 the sort of cartoonist dream of the how are you, I think I know who you are, 435 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,360 who are my variety, and also rather science fictionist. 436 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:36,360 But, oddly enough, I do know of a case in this country where substitution has been alleged, 437 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:44,360 although not in an MIB context, this particular case supposedly being with the consent of the person concerned. 438 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:51,360 Before I finally leave our own friend's source and news incidentally, you may be interested to know 439 00:37:51,360 --> 00:38:01,360 that allegedly, front-to-sqrt taken of an unimplaced and may appear in a copy of source and news that I have here. 440 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:09,360 For what it's worth, that is the photograph, the photograph of a car from the front page of it. 441 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,360 Well, obviously they could have been quite deliberately tone, 442 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,360 although I would hesitate to say definitely that they were true or false. 443 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:23,360 But it is, I think, worthwhile pointing out that the picture of the car do not go down as far as the number plate. 444 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:29,360 One thing quite a few people, particularly those who are interested in trying source as soon as the staff has gone, 445 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:35,360 are odd phone calls. I focus on this recently that is alleged to be fairly wrong. 446 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,360 One can also find that there's no one at the other end of the line, 447 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,360 and find one's contribution interrupted by purely the noises and so on. 448 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,360 So far, because I haven't troubled me over much. 449 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,360 Please, no, I wish I hadn't said that. 450 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:59,360 Actually, and this has nothing to do with flying sources or mission it, if it has, is working in a pretty red-on-the-counter manner. 451 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,360 But actually nearly all the wrong numbers who bring us up, and there's been plenty of them at all hours, 452 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,360 they've often nearly stopped us. 453 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:12,360 Which puzzled us quite a bit until I found out that our doctor's health service registration number, 454 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:20,360 which was all on all his patients' medical cards, just happened to give the same as our phone number, which explained quite a lot. 455 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:27,360 These are the only odd calls I can really remember personally with one evening when I answered the phone, 456 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,360 and all I've seen, I could hear at the other end was the usual heavy breathing. 457 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:40,360 So once I repeated our number, and said hello a few times, I decided I'd do something a bit more drastic. 458 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:45,360 So I took a deep breath, and my mouth closed to the mouthpiece, 459 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,360 where the top of my voice shouted, 460 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:53,360 I then put the phone down and was considered all satisfaction. 461 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,360 A few minutes later, I left the phone ring again, 462 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:05,360 and I had to put case on how my brother-in-law was complaining I really busted his earplugs. 463 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,360 So I'm not really sure whether to recommend this method or not. 464 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:18,360 However, again to get back to Men in Black, it's obviously really up to the individual to make up his or her own mind 465 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:24,360 on the evidence available as to whether they do exist. 466 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:30,360 To my part, and if you think as a gentleman that I seem to treat things a little lightly, 467 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:36,360 this is because I believe in a sense of humor, it's very necessary and there's interest about it. 468 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:42,360 Without it, one can start to take oneself part in seriously and lose one's perspective. 469 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:48,360 This however is something slightly different from taking a subject seriously, which I hope I do. 470 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,360 To my part, and therefore, and I would stress from it is only my opinion, 471 00:40:53,360 --> 00:41:01,360 it seems to me that whilst there could be a lot of wildly exaggerated and made-up stories concerning MIB activities, 472 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:09,360 at the bottom, I think there are some grounds at any rate to indicate that some of these gen-gies do exist. 473 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:17,360 Now if, and again I say one accepts the existence, the question obviously becomes, who are they? 474 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:25,360 And again, if one assumes their purpose is to dissuade further author research, why are they doing so? 475 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:33,360 There's a possibility they're agents of various governments, they could be earthmen controlled by alien beings, 476 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:39,360 they could be aliens themselves, they could be agents of this world's vested interest, 477 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,360 their old friends and aunts and jurors if you like. 478 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:50,360 They could be genuine investigators whose actions have been misinterpreted by some of the people on whom they call. 479 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:59,360 They could be employed even by sources of societies and journals to whip up interest when it might seem to be flagging another sort of vested interest over speed. 480 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,360 Well, that's it earlier, everyone likes the mystery. 481 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,360 Now though, I'm sure you all agree that the farthest societies in this country are concerned, 482 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,360 there's not one society in Britain that could afford to employ full-time staff, 483 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,360 they can let them off a dozen men in black. 484 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,360 Well, what would be their object? 485 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:22,360 Well, we have the old chessmukh, suppose the idea of there being government agents is concerned, 486 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:29,360 but source of information is being suppressed because it could cause panic and mass hysteria. 487 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:36,360 Yet if so, this method would seem more likely to create panic than to stop it. 488 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,360 It might be that aliens are deliberately trying either to suppress information, 489 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,360 getting out about themselves or just to confuse them. 490 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:52,360 It could be, as many people think, that we are the center of a conflict between good and evil forces, 491 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,360 the many black obviously representing the evil forces' panic forces. 492 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,360 It's possible, if the answer is that their agents are vested interests, 493 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:09,360 that they're being used to combat the likelihood of any great degree of contact between our soul 494 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:15,360 and benevolent, inclined space people which might lead to a complete social, technological, 495 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:21,360 and, if you like, moral revolution, and that this would completely shatter their position, 496 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,360 but it's far, as I say at a valid point of view. 497 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,360 I'm sure I must be tempted more possibilities that I had in ancient. 498 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:34,360 I'm sure you can doubt this thing of quite a few more yourself. 499 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:41,360 But I'm going to wind up the moment by leaving you with two further thoughts. 500 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:46,360 The first one being that all these countries, and I'm sure all other countries too, 501 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:52,360 all these countries, thoughtless societies, suffer because of the various chains of opinion 502 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:59,360 that there are, sort of why, which changes often very difficult, and it's not impossible to reconcile. 503 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:04,360 Anyway, one question I'll let you to think about is that rather than the latter ones, 504 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:10,360 could it be that in fact some of these many black are mainly white? 505 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,360 The second thought goes back to the Azit kid, black again. 506 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:18,360 Now, surprising enough, how frequently witches witchcraft the black magic 507 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,360 pop up in connection with you for investigation? 508 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,360 I know there's three or four such cases over the last few months. 509 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,360 So could our many black have any connections with witchcraft? 510 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,360 Well, I think I've covered a fair amount of ground, possibly too much, 511 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,360 so I'll just finish with a request. 512 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,360 Should any of you be approached at any time by any of these Gentries 513 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,360 and feel they are the genuine article, so to speak, 514 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,360 please don't keep it to yourself, tell me about it as well. 515 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,360 Thank you.